I'll try one more time
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I'll try one more time
I have to go anonymous, to some of you I may be the emotional messed up ex-employee, so some may already know who I am.
In our local paper today, there way an article about Wesley Snipes' IRS problems. In that article was the name of the exdirector who used to visit our office constantly for new clients.
I worked for someone 16 years, saw over 14 employees come and go. Knew and saw things that I can not talk about. Almost was to the point of signing things, now I know God has had his hand in. But in the end, when I quit and he said I was fired, he called me every name under the sun, including stupid, idiot, dumb, etc.
I googled today this man's name. Something came up, but I could not link it. Tried for over an hour and an article came up about 'trust'tax-dodge scam.
article from December 1, 2006
"The grand jury accused 11 different individuals of conspiracy to defraud the U.S...."
"In fact, the indictment charges, none of the arrangements had been approved by the Internal Revenue Service and the people who participated could face criminal prosecution and millions of dollars in back taxes, interest and penalties."
My exboss' name is on that list, as plain as can be.
So while everyone looked up to this man, and all of us employees were emotional beaten over those awful years (no one has contact because of the memories) and all of these clients praised our boss and thought "Oh how wonderful he is!" and how they all looked down on us.
I know many of these clients were sold these trusts out of not knowing the full facts, because I sat in on some of those meetings and they sounded wonderful, but because of what I did "they were to good to be true."
I pity these people, some I know placed millions of dollars into these trusts, trusting these people.
Thank you for letting me spill my guts this afternoon. I am not gloating, I am not angry, I am nothing. I really do feel sorry for all parties involved including my exboss.
The only thing I feel right now, is after all of those years of emotionally fearing I would bump into him in our small town areas, I do not have that fear anymore.
Sorry I really have to go anon
You might want to contact the feds and see if they want to interview you about your ex-boss.
I agree with Ginny. You hold information which might help bring people to justice. It's not only a matter of moral obligation, but a civic duty. Good luck!
Eek. I disagree. I wouldn't touch that situation with a ten foot pole, especially since it sounds like it affects your health and well being. It's obvious they have enough evidence or else they wouldn't have indicted him.
I am happy there seems to be justice in some part of this world. And, I hope it might even give you some closure, sweetie. Enjoy the life you have now...you deserve it!
{{Anon}}
I agree with Heidi. I know who you are, and from previous posts, I know this really effected your health. They are already indicting him. I would let it go.
{{{hugs}}}
You're right, Heidi and Debbie. If it has affected your health, Anon, you ought to stay away and protect yourself.
It sounds too stupid, but I could not sleep at all last night. I even had nightmares about it.
My stomach has been in knots and when I eat it makes it worse.
I told dh when he came home last night, he thinks we should download a copy of the article and send it to our local paper. The news has not hit our area yet and no one knows about it.
The worst thing is this man (from a particular religious sect) is on a board that financially helps this particular religious sect invest money, borrow money and give charitable gifts. Dh found it on the internet last night.
Anyway, when I did work for this man, I don't believe dh believed how bad this man really was. Eventually I stopped talking to dh about him because he just wasn't listening or as I thought, just didn't care. This placed a huge strain on our marriage. If I would have stayed working there we would have ended up in a divorce.
It has effected every aspect of my life and still does to this day. It literally makes me sick and I have tried to get past it but nothing thus far has worked.
I'm afraid this man knew what was happening before this went down. I'm pretty sure he signed all the corporate papers into his son's name so it would not be lost.
I lost my job particularly to his son needing a job. I warned the son when I left, now you will have to deal with your dad and everything he does.
I used to be on depression medication but I'm thinking of going back because of anxiety, is that what this would be called?
I tried to go to the U.S.Attorney General's website and pull up the indictments, but I can't go it.
I also read that two of the men pleaded not guilty, can you believe this? I don't know how the other ones pleaded, I would really like to pull it up. I might have to go to the library to do it.
Truly, if it makes you ill - and obviously it does - then stay away from it. My general rule in life is "if it hurts, don't do it" unless "it" is absolutely necessary.
I urge you to call your doctor and see about going back on the anti-depressant/anxiety meds. All of this surfacing in the news has undoubtedly brought it all back for you internally, as evidenced by your nightmares and stomach problems. If it were me, I'd even stop looking for information on the internet.
Oh, and that the man was from a particular religous sect, maybe even prominent in it, and did some "good works" doesn't mean anything. Ever hear of a "wolf in sheep's clothing" - well, obviously, he is a big and bad wolf.
Of course, some will plead not guilty. That's what our legal system is about. The prosecution has to prove their case and the accused is not required to do anything. Some may not like it, but that is what protects innocent people from false accusations. And besides, they probably have very high-priced, skilled attorneys who are doing what any good attorney would do.
I strongly suggest that you need to take care of yourself first. The IRS and Justice Dept. are doing what needs to be done legally. You need to get back to being able to sleep at night and not have stomach aches.
Please forgive me for suggesting you get involved - clearly I did not read your first post carefully, or I would have known how much and how badly this affected you. I apologize, from the bottom of my heart.
The only way I would involve myself is if I felt I could give more information that was already known to put him behind bars. If I felt that I would emotionally and physically feel better and feel relief if I did my part. If you have nothing to add and no good to yourself or your health would come of it, let it go and stay away from it!
I would stay away from it. A vicious man like that could try and turn it around on you. If the feds needed you they probably would have contacted you by now. I am sure they have his documents and already know you worked there. This sounds to raw for you still. You need to let it go. I am sorry this is so painful for you. ((Hugs))
I did not take any offense Ginny, I know all of you have my best interest at heart.
However, I went to the local library and went to the U.S. Department of Justice.
Downloaded and printed the documents.
I hate to say this, but the dates on the indictment are incorrect and I found some other errors, typos of names mostly, etc.
I know it started before 1998. I was the office manager (that's how I know way to much), and in January of 1998 my favorite secretary quit during our busiest time (she had good reason to quit) and another coworker quit in October of that year.
I know it was before that because I joked with these two people about the various vehicles/license plates this man would come up to our office in. Sounds stupid, but it was at least 1995 or 1996.
It looks like it really has just all started. They are really hitting the sales people of these things in this indictment, but the tax returns was a huge part of it.
I really don't have any idea where this will turn.
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