If mouths weren't run, so many issues would never come up
Moms View Message Board: The Kitchen Table (Debating Board): If mouths weren't run, so many issues would never come up
Okay.
I am not "ticked off" anymore.
But I am grateful that when I was feeling like a debate, I had a place to go.
Thanks.
"If mouths weren't run, so many issues would never come up...."
Ain't it the truth.
And I AM going to look into the books mentioned. Because I do hear the debates occaisionally and I do wonder about stuff.
I also like the idea of God laughing over how my mind works.
Moderators: I started it, I am willing to finish it. Unless you want to leave "What religious afflication was Jesus?" up, just as a courtesy to everyone, I am okay with you taking if off, now.
I am not saying that I was wrong or that I am ashamed of it, on the contrary, I think I kind of made some good points. (Me, tooting my own horn....)
But I knew when I posted that these kinds of questions (not the baptism question) the question about Jesus's religious views don't really have an answer.
I was just worked up.
Anyway, I don't know what the rules are, but if you want to take it off, it is okay with me.
We do not remove posts or threads unless they are a violation of Momsview guidelines. We have to deal with pertinent moderator responsibilities, as well as our "real" daily responsibilities. We do not have time to remove posts/threads on request.
Okay.
I saw Jessica1979 post removed a few days ago so I didn't know....
Haven't heard from her for a while....
I believe her post did not fit the guidelines as posted.
I am kind of confused as to why you would ask for your post to be deleted. Did you not get the response that you wanted? If you were just venting, the perhaps you should stated that in the post. I am left now with the feeling that you were trying to so us "the error of our ways" rather than truly trying to have a debate or exchange of ideas.
Oh, I see.
I asked for the post to be deleted because I was trying to respect the authority of the moderators. I titled the post, If Mouths Weren't Run So Many Issues Would Never Come Up, see, that was a statement made by one of the moderators (I don't know because I have never done this before) but I am guessing that the moderators are the authority, well, when I read that, I realized then that maybe I ran my mouth too much. Which is something I battle with--my dh and I are "taking a break" from our usual routine the past couple of weeks because we just finished working on the house (kitchen and exterior) so I have extra time on my hands and I have been posting a lot. Also, I have not lived here long and I don't know any of the neighbors very well. Although, I have found a good church that I enjoy and volunteer at...anyway, I saw the line on another thread and it wasn't meant as instruction to me personally but I kind of felt God "tapping my shoulder" about the post. I said to you that the post was facetious and sarcastic but I also said that I was going to look into the books suggested and I wrote down the titles. The girls and I have a regular library day in our usual routine and when we go back I will check out the books and since I am a big reader, I am sure I will read them. I have read the guidelines and I have done my best to follow them. But I did get a response and I was directed to some books that will have answers and I will read them,so, yes I got the response I wanted. Also, in an effort to get to know some folks in my church, I attend Bible Study on Wednesday night and I am starting a Bible Study this Friday morning. Some "debatable" issues come up on occaision and since the Wednesday night Bible Study is for new people to that Church (I am not new to attending Church) but I am new to that Church, anyway, since that Bible study is for new folks, a lot of questions often come up--it would be nice to have some answers. Not only to my own questions but to the questions of some of the young people who are attending church for the first time. The Leader of the study is a professor at a local college here and some of his students attend the study, and for some of them, it is the first time they have ever been in church, ever. So--I was looking for some answers for myself but also to share. I was venting a little bit and I was seeking information a little bit. I thought I was clear about that, but I guess not. I am not trying to show anybody the error of their ways, I was responding to God showing me the error in mine. When I saw the line, "If mouths weren't run, so many issues would never come up...." it struck me that if I had not gotton "steamed" and posted the What religious affiliation did Jesus have? I might have been able to find a more peaceful way to find some answers. I appreciate the exchange of ideas, and I appreciate the referral to the books. Thank you for your help.
I realize that is probably more information than you were looking for, but, that was the motive behind the question, and yes, I said I was being a little sarcastic and facetious. So, there were two motives and I stated both of them.
Thanks again for your help.
I am the new girl, still and trying to understand the rules for this kind of thing.
Also, right now, since we have just finished working on the house dh and I are kind of "letting go" of our usual routines around the house but we have decided to "get back on track" after resting a bit, so I won't have as much time to post and that will probably be good. I am probably getting "too involved" and taking it all "too seriously" .
Thanks again.
Well, I for one am glad you cleared up your motives. It felt to me as though you were baiting us, or trying to pick a fight, rather than presenting an honest query.
I know how hard it is to move to a new place where you really don't know anyone and to suddenly have a great deal of time on your hands.
MomsView is a good place to chat with other moms and to discuss things. One thing I really like about this online community is that everyone is very sincere and genuine. Each member really seems to try their best to be considerate of others' feelings and views.
We don't argue for the sake of arguing, and we can feel comfortable here knowing that as long as we express our views politely and with others in mind, then we are not judged. Nor is it our place to judge the other moms who post here.
I hope you will continue to post, and to feel comfortable. I've gotten a great deal of insight and information from this group, and I hope it will be the same for you.
Ame
"I am guessing that the moderators are the authority" you are guessing correctly.
I just want to say that these girls, moderators and posters, are great to have!! We can come here and talk about serious issues and disagree completely and then go back to our other boards in parenting and general and we just leave the opinions right here. So far this has been the best message board i have ever seen in that respect, and thats why this is the first i have ever stayed with. We have all posted things that may not follow the guidleines not realizing it and they let us know. The good thing is they let us know and move on. Just keep posting and keep the guidlines in mind and all will be great. Don't ever feel offended or like you are singled out, the moderators are just keeping things in order to make sure that everyone gets the support they need while at the same time making everyone happy which we all know is very hard to do!
Kenna, you hit the nail on the head.
Many of us have been members of un-moderated messageboards and have witnessed the absolute chaos that follows.
Actually, in my experience, Momsview is one of the more *grounded* sites - we have rules, we are strict about what is allowed and what is not, but not TOO strict. We try to reach a happy medium, allowing our members the freedom to express ideas, seek and give advice, cry on each others' shoulders, share happy milestones in their or the kids' lives, have friendly debates on serious, important issues - and we all know that everyone has an opinion on a given subject, they do not always agree, and we try to allow everyone to express their opinion.
However, in doing so, our posting guidelines, which have taken considerable time and effort to develop using common sense and both good and bad experiences on the board, don't always satisfy everyone all of the time.
Our goal is to provide a *safe haven* where members are not allowed to cross a line, i.e. insulting, flaming, angering and hurting one another with their posts.
And, keep in mind, since you are reading the written words here, it is often easy to misinterpret exactly how some comments are meant to be taken since you cannot see facial expressions and hear the voice tones and attitudes of the person making them. And sometimes that alters how posts come across in general.
Each and every post on Momsview eventually is read by at least one moderator. If any one of them feels there is a problem post, it is presented to the other staff and decisions are made. We realize that there will always be some who don't agree with the decisions we make, but we are doing our jobs to keep Momsview what it has become for everyone.
This is the first message board I have belonged to. I tried to join others after such a great experience & didn't like them as much. I think the Moderaters are doing a great job...Thank you all for keeping this a great place to post! There have been a few times when I have felt unsure, but then I haven't been here that long & will feel more confident when I am here longer.
Dear Everyone,
As I stated, this is my first experience with a message board. I like to talk and I enjoy meeting new people. As I have mentioned, I am presently in a new community and I don't know many people and I am anxious.
Also, in my "old" community, where I moved from, I attended the same church a number of years and I had friends. I was known in the community and I had a good reputation, etc. etc. etc. Now, I am starting all over.
Plus, I love, love, love, this house and I believe this is where the Lord intends us to be. One reason I believe this is after we lost 3 intimate family members to cancer and my biological Father to a sudden massive heart attack. We inhereted (sp?) the wills of the folks who "passed on" left us cash and property. I would rather have my family back but after a year of mourning, I realized those funds were left to me and my husband and our family and that in order to honor my deceased loved ones I should do somethng productive with it....
So....
my husband and I had always wanted to live "debt free" to "owe no person except to love them" so after donating 10% of the gross amount of all of the inheretance combined to build the children's playground at our church in our old community, we prayed and sought God about a house.
The Lord showed us this house, and we paid cash for it, so we no longer have a house payment. When we sought the Lord about the house, we applied Psalm 115:16 to our prayer, that, "The highest heavens belong to The Lord--But this (piece of the earth, this house) The Lord has given to man (to us and our family).
I promise I am coming to a point--
So, we bought this house and at first it was uninhabitable. Infested with fleas, falling apart, no flooring, bad plumbing so then our family lived in a hotel and came out to the house to work each day, nice hotel, very decent, but few opportunities to really make new friends because it was, by the nature of being a hotel, lots of people in and out.
So, we killed the fleas, put in new floors, new carpet, better plumbing, we bought the materials but did the labor ourselves. We couldn't afford to pay cash for a new house and we really felt The Lord leading us not to go into debt but fixing up this house has been kind of like having a new house because it was in such bad shape, we are getting to "remake and remodel" it into our own. And we do not have to go into debt, because we have the money for the materials, and we don't have to pay for labor.
We had just finished the exterior and the kitchen and I was trying to save my hardworking dh some money so I tried to color my own hair and I made a big mess, so I did a search to get some help and I found ya"ll.
Now, I have been lonely for a long time, all my friends are in my old community, at least 3 hours away, and I have been living in a hotel and fixing up a house and homeschooling and now...at last....women who were Moms and who I could talk to...and I didn't have to worry about the moving thing because it was on the internet....seemed like the perfect solution.
Well, I started posting and posting and posting, I was like a person who had been in a desert and had finally found water...I couldn't get enough...and I honestly thought I had something to contribute. And I got "carried away". I had never done anything like this before and I was so excited. Plus, I hadn't talked to anyone (another adult) beside dh, who I adored, in such a long time....we had been absorbed in moving and remodelling and yes, we found a good church and I volunteer there and they even offerred me a job, but I just haven't really made any "social connections" out here.
So I posted, and posted, and posted...and then a very dear friend of mine from my old community calls and wants my help and input in an abusive situation with a friend or hers. Now, I do not mind helping out with these kinds of situations, I am a survivor from a difficult place and I believe in helping others. But the loneliness, the moving, the remodeling, and then a phone call from a crisis situation, which took my time and my sleep to deal with--all just kind of "took it's toll" on me.
As a result, you ladies were confronted with a motormouth, sleep deprived nut.
I guess that's the only, only, thing wrong with having an "open door" policy. Occaisionally, a real "looney tune" walks into that "open door".
My dh and I are getting back into our regular routine, I am sleeping better, this morning I attended a new Bible study.
I look at this time with ya'll as kind of a combination "nervous breakdown-therapy-crazy" thing that probably happened at just the right time to keep me out of an insane aslylum!!!
And I appreciate it.
But I am going to go now.
I am so all of you are soosoo disappointed. (that was meant in an affectionate joking kidding around way) not in an accusatory way.
The nut who walked through the "open door" is walking back out of it.
But I enjoyed my visit.
I just think that maybe I am not cut out for message boards.
Some people seem to "get it" and some don't, I seem to be one of the ones who "don't get it" I guess.And before I 'mess up" again I am just going to say "thank you" and go.
And there are other things in my life that I am good at--and eventually, I will adjust to my new home and make new friends...it will all work out.
I appreciate ya'll helping me through a difficult time.
I just don't think that message boards are for me.
Nothing at all against any of you.
I just don't seem to be "cut out" for it.
Thanks for "being there".
Good Luck and God Bless.
Again, it is nothing against any of you.
"Dmom"
"And, keep in mind, since you are reading the written words here, it is often easy to misinterpret exactly how some comments are meant to be taken since you cannot see facial expressions and hear the voice tones and attitudes of the person making them. And sometimes that alters how posts come across in general."
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Really?
Like this:
' "I am guessing that the moderators are the authority" you are guessing correctly. "
Renee, since I can't hear you or see you, exactly how was that meant?
exactly your point! 
see, it may not have been meant in a sarcastic way when it was said in the first place, but it sounded like it was. But we can't tell by just reading the words! It sounded like a sarcastic "flex of power"? It probably was not though. I think we need more smiley's to be able to show our feelings better!
Touche! LOL
LMAO!!! I'm pretty amused by this entire post. When I post something, I try to anticipate how it would look to the other moms, if it's sarcastic or not. I'm sure I'm not always successful, but hey, I try! When Dmom posted that (I guessing the moderators are the authority) I took it sarcasticlly. Of course they are, that's why they are the MODERATORS!!! It's like saying "I guess the parents are in charge in this house". So Bobbie's reply, in the "no nonsense" Bobbie attitude that I love, seemed to be the perfect response. No fight or fuss about it, just a "yes, that's the way it is".
It's funny how we all read it differently. When I read her statement about the moderators being the authority, I took it as someone who was new, never on a message board before, and just trying to figure out how things work. I didn't see that statement as sarcastic at all. I went through this post with a friend and it was funny because we actually read the entire thread, along with the one or two others that with it,completely differently and could not agree on how any of it was intended.
It is so hard to understand people's intentions without body language and facial expression to read. I thought of it as a naive statement, like Melanie did, but I also saw how it could be taken in a bratty way. I am a big fan of smiley faces to make sure that people know that I meant something in a light way. I am also very aware of how something will be read by others. At least, I try to be. I think this whole thread was a little hard to figure out. Moderators, Keep Up the Good Work!
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