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School Option

Moms View Message Board: Parenting Discussion: Archive January-June 2005: School Option
By Cat on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 01:40 pm:

Connections Academy

What do you think of this? It sounds great. But you know what they say about things that sound too good to be true. Let me know your thoughts. TIA

By Unschoolmom on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 03:35 pm:

Looks cool. :)I'd say it would be worth a try. I imagine that certain children would do better with that then other methods. My only advice would be to keep in mind that your sampling choices for the right fit. That anything that doesn't work can be abandoned after a reasonable trial (including diff. homeschooling styles if you go that way) and you don't need to plug away for the rest of the school year or semester or whatever if it's not working.

Ask Robin too (maybe even his brother). He might have some really good ideas on how to approach homeschooling or if the Connections Academy looks like it would work for him.

By Cat on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 05:42 pm:

Thanx for your thoughts, Dawn. I'm going to look at this further, but I am a bit concerned that it won't offer the flexibility I'm really looking for. I want something that gives us the option of skipping a specific subject for a week or so if another subject is really interesting Robin at the time. We'll still do the subject, just not right then. Ykwim? I also want to be able to challenge him appropriately. He won't work on something if it's boring (that's a problem in public school now for some things). Dh still thinks Robin should at least try public middle school. We're still talking. :)

By Conni on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:14 am:

Cat I think this works great for some families. It is very structured and you have everything provided for you free of charge. However, when I looked into it (here in Arkansas) and went to the meeting about it. I knew it wasnt for me. lol It is still 6 hrs a day. Its just like going to public school axcept you do it from home. OK, my thing was-- I wanted to give the boys a christian education if I was going to home school them. :) I also was looking for something that was more flexible if we wanted to travel a couple weeks in the middle of the yr etc... It didnt seem as flexible as the A beka curriculum and some of the others I had looked at.

I am sure it is a great option for some families tho!!!

By Conni on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:22 am:

Btw thank you soooo much for the card!!!!! :) Blake loved it. I was so busy, yesterday and last night were crazy so I never got you emailed back. SORRY!!! Nothing like waiting til the last minute to figure out what you are doing for a bday. lol We have been gone so much and so busy that i just hadnt had time to do anything for it.

Anyhoo, I made treat bags for him to take to preschool and pass out then last night we took a couple of friends out for pizza and games, then back to the house for spiderman cake / ice cream and gifts. Blake had a great time! We got him tickets to ride on the Arkansas/Missouri RR passenger train for next Tuesday. A couple of his friends are going to ride with us and our nephew. It should be fun. He is so excited. :)

I wish you lived closer so we could hang out!! I am just sure your dh could find a job here! ;)

By Cat on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:37 am:

Thanx for the info, Conni. If it's still 6 hours a day, I really don't think that'd work for us. Robin's one of those kids that "gets it" after only a couple times. He doesn't need the repetition some kids do (like Randy with spelling words! lol). You kwim. Like the school giving out worksheets with 25 of the same type math problems. Robin's got it after about 5, but they still make him do all 25. He gets bored! I do like A Beka's program, and have ordered their catalog. My neighbor uses it for her dd, but I really don't want to talk to her about it. We get along fine, just have different views on many things so we don't talk much.

Anyway, I'm glad Blake liked the card! It sounds like he had a great birthday. I can't believe he's 5 already!!! I'm sure you can't, either. :)

Oh, and I'm sure my dh could find a job there, too. There was actually one in Albuquerque that he considered for about 10 seconds! lol Too hot for us. I bet your dh could find a job around here! You guys already know you like it here. :) And our weather is NEVER boring! Two days ago we have a blizzard (yes, that's what they're calling it), yesterday was a snow day while we dug out, and today's supposed to be in the high 50's and "unseasonably warm". Gotta love it! :)

By Lauram on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 08:01 pm:

Did you find out more? I'm kinda curious....

By Yjja123 on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 08:45 pm:

Cat,
A Beka is very repetitive!

By Cat on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 09:43 pm:

Laura, I didn't find out more, but like I said before, I don't want something that structured. I don't want "school at home".

Yvonne, I really like A Beka's academics and curriculum. I just don't want the daily Bible readings and memory verses. Can I do A Beka without that? I'm looking at Calvert, too. There are SO many curriculums out there, it's hard to know what to do.

Robin's been home this week since Wednesday afternoon. He had a meltdown at school. He got SO stressed out because he did the wrong homework he totally shut down. I just think school is stressing him out too much. My mom thinks he shouldn't go back and I should just request (and not take no for an answer, she said) he be homebound for the rest of the year. His teacher sent work home for him and he's about finished it all. I was a bit concerned when I saw the math worksheets and they were rounding numbers and subtracting double and triple digits. He's in 6th grade and the worksheets said "4th grade math." Hello??? I called his teacher and she said they're getting ready to do a unit on adding and subtracting measurements and some of the kids had "forgotten" how to "borrow" so she's doing these for "review." She assured me he's still doing 6th grade math, and I assured her he remembers how to borrow. Whatever. I'm not sure I believe her. :( We'll see.

By Tink on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 12:01 am:

What a frustrating situation for you and Robin! I have no advice for homeschooling but wanted to send a hug because I know I'd be frazzled trying to help my son just get the education he needs and deserves. I think I'd love to homeschool my oldest, just because she catches on so quickly and doesn't deal well with pressure. I hope you are able to find a curriculum that fits both of you to a T.

By Unschoolmom on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 07:46 am:

6 hrs?! Obviously designed by someone who has some heavy knowledge about the education system and none about home schooling. I don't know ANY HSers, even much more formal ones than me, who spend 6 hours a day on school work.

Cat, Unit Studies might be a good fit for you. Instead of following a strict curricullum you can build (or get free from the internet) lessons around themes that can be tailored to your childs interests. I'm not really clear on how they work but have used sort of that aproach at times. My daughter was into Egyptian history at 4 so we borrowed videos from our library, took out related books, built ramps and levers (how they may have moved blocks to build the pyramids), did some related art and a bit of math. A real unit study would be more organized but could frame the subjects your son has to cover.

Here's a few links (the first has some good articles - the last is a message board but seems to have some good content and advice)

http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/methods/Units.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/mo/sassafrassgrove/homeschool/unit_studies.html

http://www.vegsource.com/homeschool/unitstudy/

Unit studies are really flexible, give you as much control as you want,can be very cheap, can be determined by your child's interests and can be a lot of fun.

By Yjja123 on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 08:22 am:

Cat

A Beka is very much a "school curriculum" or school at home. It is a lot of seat work and worksheets. There is a lot of repetitive questions in the worksheets. You can pick and choose your subjects but I think you really need to go to one of their motel meetings and look at the books. I like them BECAUSE they are the same as what the private schol use. I like the repetitive worksheets as they help my daughter completely grasp the information.
If you want less structered, I really do not think you will be happy with A Beka.
Yvonne

By Cat on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 09:46 am:

Yvonne, thanx for the info. If A Beka is like that, you're right--we probably wouldn't like it. They have some motel meetings scheduled in my area in the next couple months. I can always go look. :)

Dawn, thank you for the links. I will have to check them out. Unit studies sound like they might be a good fit. I was just telling dh last night that if we move next summer to a house on a bigger lot (we're on 1/10 of a acre and we want more room!) we could "give" Robin a corner or area and let him landscape it. Let him draw up plans, take him to Lowe's/Home Depot and let him price supplies (give him a budget), let him figure it all out and then let him build it. That is something he'd REALLY enjoy. I figured he'd get lots of math practice and some engineering and some other things. I guess that might be considered a unit study, right? On what exactly, I'm not sure, but it would be something. He'd much rather do things like that than sit in front of a book writing and studying. He's very hands on. He's good at reading and writing, but it's rather boring for him. His mind usually works faster than he can write, and then he gets frustrated. Ykwim? Anyway, thanx again. It's great having you and all the other hs'ers here to pick your brains. :)

By Unschoolmom on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 07:17 pm:

That sounds perfect Cat...I think if you have some organized activities or projects surrounding the plot of land then it would qualify as unit studies. And that's a cool idea...You guys could research plants (perrenials, annuals, bulbs and seed) and climate (what growing zone you're in)for science. Art could be the planning in terms of using colour or structure and drawing the plans (also good practice for mapping). There'd be a ton of math (practical stuff too) in the budgeting and purchasing. Have him keep a gardening journal or even a weblog?

There's a ton of learning that could blossom (pun intended :) ) from a garden unit study and you could have lots of material for record keeping if you need it. Photos of the land at different stages, plans and drawings, budgets and receipts, a list of books consulted, etc.

More links for you!

http://www.homeschoolzone.com/faces/gourds.htm
(some neat garden- homeschooling related articles)

http://www.easyfunschool.com/article1576.html
(here's some suggestions for what to put into a unit study. It's a little contrived...maybe geared to younger kids or maybe my unschooling bias is showing? Your's son older right? So he could have more control maybe, depending on what you're comfortable with)

http://home.att.net/~laurabrownmckenzie/gardens.html
(another unit study - pretty formal if that's something you'd like to incorporate)

Those will give you some ideas anyway. I can post other things I come across if you would like.

A short note about the reading...There was a fairly recent Canadian study on literacy in boys...

http://www.education.ualberta.ca/boysandliteracy/findings.html

... that found many developed their literacy skills with comic books, computer and game station magazines, etc. (Terrible summary on my part). If your son has an interest in gaming or motorcycles or something else, collect related books and magazines? Gift him with a magazine subscription?

By Cat on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 07:39 pm:

Thanx, Dawn! I checked out the first link you gave me earlier and there was a LOT of great info there. I saved some of the articles to read later (some were long). Robin is 11 and will be in 7th grade this fall (will be 12 in Oct). He's VERY into WWE right now and has some of their magazines. It's funny, because the other day while he was home I told him to pick out a book because I wanted him to read for at least 30 minutes and he asked if he could read his magazine. I told him I didn't mind him reading his magazine, but I really wanted him to read a book, too. Something with a story line that he could tell me about. Maybe I should just let him read the magazines! lol He'd probably love a magazine subscription to something like SI for Kids or Time for Kids. They get Zoo Books now, but are quickly outgrowing them (if not outgrown already). I ran into my neighbor and mentioned to her possibly hs'ing Robin next year and she said if I needed any help getting started to let her know. She also said she's still using A Beka and if we don't want to do the Bible reading/memorization we don't have to. I'll have to look at their catalog when I get it. Thanx for the other sites. I'll probably be online a lot tonight. Dh is going out to a friend's house to play cards. It'll be a quiet night at home with the boys (as quiet as a 9yo and an 11yo can be!). :)

By Unschoolmom on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 08:05 am:

I'd just let him go with the magazines for now. He may need time to just connect the idea of reading with fun, contentment, enjoyment. Magazines are certainly more welcoming at times and he could tell you about the articles and what he got out of them(Heck, if they're WWE, that's a whole pile of fictional stories, eh? :) )IMO the focus should be less on what's read and more on letting the child connect reading and enjoyment.

Meanwhile, be sneaky. Go to some used book sales, flea markets, etc. and start picking out related books as well. When I worked at a bookstore we had tons of people who rarely read coming in to snatch up the Rock's or Chyna's or Mankind's (rather well written) autobiographies. Many times they'd be back for something related and their reading would blossum.

Just bring the books in and plunk them down, see if they spark an interest. One unschooler I know used to bring pamphlets, magazines, books home and put them buy the toilet. :)

It sounds like you're getting excited about this Cat. :)

By Lauram on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 01:00 pm:

Hmmmm... I wouldn't rule out the idea of getting some homebound tutoring too in addition. Usually it's only a short amount of time- not the full day. I think you do have a shot at that given his issues.... That is if you aren't completed "fed up" if you KWIM.....

By Cat on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 01:12 pm:

I'm getting there, Laura. I have a meeting with the principal tomorrow morning. I have my letter of intent to homeschool ready if I need to use it. Only problems with that is I have to give them 2 weeks notice. What do I do those two weeks? Send him and hope they can put up with him? I'll let you know how it goes. *sigh*

By Unschoolmom on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 04:40 pm:

Go to your family doctor and get him to write up a note dismissing your son from school because of stress? :) Seriously.

What could they do if you do pull him before the two weeks are up?

By Cat on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 05:23 pm:

Dawn, that's what my mom suggested. Robin's psyciatrist already knows what's going on (talked to him last week). We'll see how the meeting goes tomorrow. I actually found something that said most schools don't hold you to the 2 weeks. It's that "most" part that worries me. I can see this school playing hardball. But I can play that game, too. Mama Bear gets mighty fierce when she needs to. :)

By Lauram on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 08:12 pm:

I think if they hold you to it (which I can't imagine) that you could easily get a dr's note. Good luck tomorrow! Is it a PPT? Or just a mtg with the principal? If you want to go the tutoring route, you'll need to have a PPT.

By Cat on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 07:51 am:

It's just a meeting with the principal, Laura. I'll let you know how it goes. Of course, things can never be easy, so Randy's sick today (sore throat--what else with him! ). So now I have to figure out what to do with HIM during this meeting. Argh...

By Lauram on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 09:36 am:

It IS never easy! Good luck! :)

By Cat on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 12:12 pm:

Well Randy ended up going to school. He said his throat felt better (and was running around playing like a wild child!) so I sent him. Robin and I met with the principal and everything was going great. We were working out which classes he would mainstream for and which he'd stay in the SCC for. He was being very helpful in the decision makings and very respectful. Then it was time for him to go to class. That's when he changed. He started crying (while fighting not to), started talking ugly and wanted to go home. I finally got him to leave the room (after promising I would leave) so I could talk to the principal alone. We talked about what our options are and we're pretty limited. She said homebound isn't her call, we've have to call a meeting and that it's really only for kids that can't come to school for whatever physical reason. I told her if his stress/anxiety is a result of his bipolar, then it was my understanding that then it would be considered a disability and that's exactly what homebound is for. She grudgingly agreed. Then she asked if I thought he would negotiate about staying today if he got to go home early (I'd already told her I wouldn't leave him like he was at that time--he'd get into trouble on purpose so I'd have to come get him). I said maybe, so we brought him back in and gave him three options. 1-stay and go out to the classes we'd decided on, 2-stay and stay in the SCC all day, 3-stay until 12:40 when I can pick him up He chose option 3. Then we talked about what he wanted to do tomorrow, option 1 or 2. He actually chose option 1 for tomorrow, which is great. I'm really hoping and praying we make it through the next 6 weeks with minimal problems. Yes, I know I can pull him now (and I'm still seriously considering it), but I really want him to finish 6th grade so we're just done with it. We'll see what the next few weeks bring. *big, heavy sigh*

By Lauram on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 05:00 pm:

She's right that homebound isnt her call- you have to call a PPT and it has to be a team decision. It's a change in placement and a PPT is a Planning and Placement Team. I totally agree that if he can't come to school for the stress/anxiety as a result of his bipolar it IS a physical reason. You could win that one easily. Just bring a dr note/dr with you. I hear your pain about lasting the 6 weeks. I was there a couple weeks ago with Douglas. Luckily he's turned the corner (for now at least). It's so "up and down." That's what's so hard with these kids.... I'm glad Randy is feeling better, too! :) Hang in there! :)


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