Ladies I am lost and sleep deprived and don't know what to do. Jade figured out how to role over about 5 weeks ago well now in the last week she has decided that rolling over during the night is fun so I put her to bed on her belly and within 1 hour she has flipped and is fussing. I flip her back and 45 minutes later she is over again. If I do not go back in and replug her and flip her she gets very angry so as you can see we have a bad all night pattern here and I really need sleep what can I do. She will not sleep on her back for long and she wakes up. Most of the time she is flipping over while still sleeping and within 10-15 minutes is awake and yelling.

HELP WHAT CAN I DO!!!!

By Emily7 on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:10 pm:

Have you tried starting out on her back? Or have you tried to use one of those wedges so she stays on her side?
You could let her cry for 10 minutes then go in & assure her you are there. Don't pick her up. When she stops crying leave her room. If she starts to cry, let her for 10 minutes then repeat. This is what I was told to do, I haven't tried it though!

By Mommierenee on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:22 pm:

I agree with the cry it out thing. As long as she's healthy & you know that she isn't hungry or wet or uncomfortable with the temperature in the room. Let her wear herself out flipping around & crying! It's really hard to do, but it worked with my children. By the time I had another baby & my son was 1 year old, I didn't have time to be running in every 10 minutes & not getting any sleep!!!

By Kittycat_26 on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 02:45 pm:

I believe in letting her sort through some of her issues. It shouldn't be too much longer until she can roll herself both ways and then this won't be an issue.

Hang in there!

By Juli4 on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 02:48 pm:

I suggest putting two small pillows on either side of her so she can't roll. Or something along those lines. At that age she is still small enough for that to be a barrier. Good luck

By Conni on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 04:02 pm:

I cant believe she is already 4 mos old!!!!!! WOW!

By Emdee on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 04:08 pm:

Like others have said, maybe a wedge will work. I used that on my dd when she was around that age and it worked pretty good. It helps them feel secure and comforted, in my opinion.

By Kate on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 05:39 pm:

At her age she should only be sleeping on her back to help prevent SIDS. I'd also use a wedge to keep her in place. She might scream, but she'll get used to it and be safer. Give her plenty of floor time during the day to satisfy her rolling urge.

By Children03 on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:58 pm:

I used a wedge for my girls but not at 4 months. It is worth a try. I really think you should let her try to work out a comfortable position on her own because if you keep going in to help she will depend on you every time. You won't ever get any sleep if you don't allow her to cry it out for a while. She will eventually learn how to turn herself back over.

By Dawnk777 on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:13 am:

Poor Tonya. By 4 months, mine were both sleeping pretty good! Although, what was really annoying were the nights that the baby slept and then my older one woke up with night terrors. So, for a short while, I was either up with a baby or up with a 2-1/2yo who was screaming, but not awake! Argh! I thought they had a conspiracy going for a while. I never had a baby up and a night terror on the same night!

By Truestori on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:38 am:

Oh Tonya,

I remember those days...It is so frustrating.

I think thats how we became "attachment parent's"

I have never wanted to get out of bed for a screaming baby so the next best thing was to let them sleep with us.

It allowed me to get the much needed rest or I would have been an absolute Bear!

By Amyk on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 07:06 am:

I think that at just 4 months - Crying it out would not be a good idea. I encourage you to pick up a copy of "The No-Cry Sleep Sleep Solution" by Elizabeth Pantley - a book of gentle ways to help your baby sleep through the night. Also, check out:

http://www.nospank.net/fleiss.htm

http://www.thesleeplady.com/

http://www.drjaygordon.com/index.htm

and... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NoCrySleep2/

Can you tell I, too, have a baby that is a poor sleeper??? :0)

I wish you the best in your search for sleep!

Sincerely,

Amy

By Momaroze on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:15 pm:

I remember those days Clearly! Not long ago. I decided to do the cry it out method but ds was 7months. It worked and took only 3-4 days. Be patient time will pass quickly!!

By Amecmom on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:50 pm:

4 months is definatly too early for a cry it out solution. I tried a sleep wedge with my son, but it didn't work well. Two towels or blankets rolled, one on each side did work.
I would place the top of the roll so that it touched the bottom of the pacifier and helped to keep it in (I'm assuming that's what you mean by replug her).

As far as SIDS goes, any position, other than on her belly is fine. In fact, in the hospital, the had my son sleeping on his side, which turned out to be a good thing, as he had reflux, and should not be on his back.

This is not an easy time. I remember wondering if I was ever going to get a good night's sleep again. Even when he slept through, I would wake, because I was used to waking. The I was afraid to go back to sleep because I was sure he'd just wake in another minute anyway.

It will pass - just get rest when you can.

Ame

By Mommierenee on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:57 pm:

you'll be reminiscing (sp?) about these days when he gets to be about 3!
Good luck mama!!!

By Texannie on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 03:34 pm:

My pediatrician recommended self calming when my ds was 3 months. Tonya, might check with your peed for suggestions.

By Tonya on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 06:54 pm:

Well ladies Jade slept again all night last night from 10pm until 11am. I put 2 long pillows one on each side of her so the only way she could go was up and them only maybe 2 feet. She slept all night long she did move up some but never was able to roll so she slept all night.

I know what some people say about belly sleeping but Timmy was a belly baby from day 1 and so has Jade. They both never slept on their backs and I did try the sides with those wedge things and they both fought them from teh start as soo nas I put them on their belly they were always fine.

Thanks for the advice we go to the Dr tomorrow for our 4 month check-up so I will ask him also.

Thanks ladies.

By Kate on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 07:49 pm:

Tonya, it's really dangerous for her to sleep on her stomach, especially surrounded by pillows. What if she burrows DOWN, instead of up? She could easily smother. Before the 'back to sleep' campaign, plenty of babies did sleep on their stomachs and did just fine. But plenty did not. I don't have statistics (altho your doctor probably does) but the rate of SIDS went down dramatically when babies slept on their sides or backs. There is definite evidence out there. It really concerns me to think your baby is not only on her stomach, but now crowded in by pillows. She just needs a small pocket to get her breath caught in and she can smother in her own carbon dioxide which she breathes out. It's a big risk....please talk with your doctor tomorrow specifically about sleeping positions.

By Emily7 on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 08:49 pm:

I agree with Kate. It is very dangerous especially surrounded by pillows. Babies do not know enough to turn their head when they can't breath or aren't getting enough oxygen.
http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/welcome/safety/back_to_sleep.html#Facts

By Amecmom on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 09:10 pm:

Surrounded by pillows is very different from using two towel or blanket rolls - one on either side. This is a method they used in the hospital with my son. Use towel or blankets rolled up.
Ame

By Texannie on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 01:08 am:

She slept for 13 hours?????????!! WOW!!! I had great sleepers, but never that good!

It's so funny about the whole sleep tummy or back. My kids are 4.5 years apart. The EXPERTS were adamant that the oldest sleep on his stomach no matter what, then the EXPERTS decided that the youngest needed to sleep on her back.

By Conni on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 09:20 am:

lTonya you have a healthy 6 yo little boy and a healthy 4mos old baby girl. I am sure you know what you are doing! I hope things get better soon and you are getting more rest. My only piece of advice to you is during these phases when you arent getting enough reast--have your dh help or ask a friend/relative to help you out while you take a nap or something.

This phase will pass soon and she will find a new one. LOL Just teasin'! (kinda)

By Momaroze on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 07:15 pm:

She will find a new one!! LOL

By Kaye on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 08:12 pm:

Tonya, consider letting her sleep with you. Espcially for belly sleepers, the chance of sids is greatly decreased by co sleeping.

By Melana on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 09:06 pm:

My daughter is, and always has been a belly sleeper, we were co-sleepers for the first three months, and after that DH came home from basic training, so off to the crib she went, she still slept with us about once or twice a week. From that to sleeping next to our bed in her basinet(sp?) and finnally in her own crib. Now she's 10 months, tosses a lot, and I have yet to go longer than a few days of all night sleeping. *sigh*
It's gonna get better though, and if you nurse her, co-sleeping is SOOOO much easier! You don't even have to wake up to nurse, lol, I didn't.